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(Message started by: Olivier Guillion on Nov 8^th, 2005, 6:02pm)

Title: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by Olivier Guillion on Nov 8^th, 2005, 6:02pm

Description:
Tuplets (triplets...) within tuplets.

Difficulty:
:star::star::star::star::star:

Product(s):
:harmony: :melody:

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by DedenK on Nov 13^th, 2005, 10:26am

Bonjour,
Si ça doit permettre de mettre autant de rapports que l'on veut (genre des 15 pour 7), alors mille fois oui !!! en attendant, pour l'édition simple de triolets de triolets, il suffit de mettre du 9:8...
Cordialement, DedenK.

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by Francois Desjardins on Jan 2^nd, 2006, 8:23am

on 11/08/05 à 18:02:26, Olivier Guillion wrote:

Description:
Tuplets (triplets...) within tuplets.

Difficulty:
:star::star::star::star::star:

Product(s):
:harmony: :melody:

De quoi s'agit-il au juste?

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by Grandpa Scorpion on Feb 25^th, 2006, 5:18pm

I had proposed this feature originally a couple of years ago. I think it would be great for folks who write Zappa-ish or modern classical music. It would be great a learning tool too.

I think this feature would spur interest for new customers as well.

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by Jean-Armand on Feb 26^th, 2006, 2:28pm

Bien entendu, la difficulté c'est l'exécution de tels rythmes. Mais pour un soliste (piano ou percussion par exemple) c'est envisageable, ou pour de bons musiciens pratiquant la musique contemporaine.

Comme le dit Grandpa Scorpion c'est aussi utile à l'apprentissage de tels rythmes ; et j'ajouterai que pour le compositeur cela permet de découvrir si de tels rythmes sont intéressants ou non.

Cela doit permettre aussi de reproduire plus facilement un jeu tempo rubato, par exemple pour du Chopin - dans ce cas on masquerait l'indication des tuplets.

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by carminum on Mar 31^st, 2006, 4:37pm

Yes PLEASE!!
I use quite a lot of tuplets in my works.
Also, might I suggets the creation of a special pallette on which to store frequently used tuplets instead of heaving to double click the tuplet-button each time I need to change from 3:2 to 5:4 etc.
The pallette would then contain a separate button for each tuplet I would like to use.
I hope my suggestion is in line with the topic or should I submit it as a new one?
javascript:smiley()
SmileyGood luck Olivier with the hard work on the tuplets!!

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by Zlatoje_Pajcic on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:58pm

That is needed for publishing and I voted "Yes"

Zlatoje _Pajcic

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by hudson_m3000 on Mar 15^th, 2007, 8:34pm

I think there is a need to sort out the basic appearance of triplets first so that tails are the default instead of the beam that is currently the case.

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by OLIVEIRA on Mar 16^th, 2007, 9:20am

on 03/15/07 at 20:34:07, hudson_m3000 wrote:

I think there is a need to sort out the basic appearance of triplets first so that tails are the default instead of the beam that is currently the case.

Efectivamente. Fundamental. De ahí, debe partir lo demás, si es que viene.. : ;)
Pero las 4 estrellas... de dificultad :-[

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by evader23 on Apr 26^th, 2007, 10:05pm

I don't see the need for this feature you can make complex tuplets already (1/4 1/8, 1/8 1/8 1/16 16) don't see the need for t his myself

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by rasalgethi on Dec 21^st, 2007, 8:16am

I think it's a good idea and voted "Yes."
There was also a post about grouping beamed notes differently to the automatic way they're currently beamed in MA, but it appears to have been deleted. I thought it was an excellent idea. Has it been accepted?
Regards, rasalgethi

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by Oswaldo on Dec 23^rd, 2007, 4:35pm

Bonjour à toutes et à tous,

En effet la possibilité de pouvoir utiliser des tuplets autres que la limite imposé qui est de 10
- ( L'on sait qu'il existe la possiblité d'obtenir des tuplets sans limite théorique, dans le script insèrer tuplet spécial) -

serait un atout formidable pour HA (!).

Je suis compositeur (musique contemporaine) et vraiment, - pour moi - la possibilité d'avoir des tuplets sans les limiter à 10 est quelque chose qui manque à HA.

Merci vraiment de prendre ceci en considèration.

Cordialement,

Oswaldo González

Title: Re: Tuplets of tuplets
Post by MeicGoodyear on Oct 6^th, 2008, 9:51am

Make the code reursive and you could have tuplets inside tuplets inside tuplets...ad infinitum.

Not something human performers wold have a lot of use for, but electronic composers might welcome it.

Meic