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Question: Do you support the proposal below?

Yes     35 (100%)
No     0 (0%)

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Lyrics/hyphens fine position  
« on: Nov 9th, 2005, 8:59am »
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Description:
An option to adjust the position of lyrics and hyphens according to each  
note (like right or left alignment or fine spacing of lyrics according to  
the note).
 
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Re: Lyrics/hyphens fine position  
« Reply #1 on: Nov 19th, 2005, 11:25am »
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Well, I would love that. I fight quite often with those elements to get them right.
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Re: Lyrics/hyphens fine position  
« Reply #2 on: Dec 29th, 2005, 3:25pm »
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Yes, this would be a terrific improvement in HA/MA. It really disgusting to me that hyphens cannot go beyond the point where the measure bar is (they disappear sometimes).
This feature should allow something like this:
 
notes -> F   |  C |]  <---- ABC notation style
lyrics -> Glo -  ry
The hyphen is allowed to go overboard.
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Re: Lyrics/hyphens fine position  
« Reply #3 on: Dec 29th, 2005, 4:09pm »
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on Dec 29th, 2005, 3:25pm, edubrazil wrote:
Yes, this would be a terrific improvement in HA/MA. It really disgusting to me that hyphens cannot go beyond the point where the measure bar is (they disappear sometimes).
This feature should allow something like this:
 
notes -> F   |  C |]  <---- ABC notation style
lyrics -> Glo -  ry
The hyphen is allowed to go overboard.

 
 
This is normally already done in v9.2 (soon available in Beta). Could you send me a sample score as I 'll be able to check this with you.
 
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Re: Lyrics/hyphens fine position   olugardebencao.myr
« Reply #4 on: Dec 30th, 2005, 1:22am »
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Good that this new version is already dealing with this!
In the attached file take a look on the lyrics of the 2nd and 3rd measure: the hyphen cannot be centered between the syllable &#8220;lu&#8221; and &#8220;gar&#8221;.
In the 7th measure, the hyphen of the word &#8220;cantar&#8221; (3rd line of lyrics) is being swallowed (or squeezed) because of the end of the measure.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 30th, 2005, 7:23am »
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on Dec 30th, 2005, 1:22am, edubrazil wrote:
In the attached file take a look on the lyrics of the 2nd and 3rd measure: the hyphen cannot be centered between the syllable &#8220;lu&#8221; and &#8220;gar&#8221;.

 
Here is what I got with v9.2
 
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 30th, 2005, 7:26am »
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on Dec 30th, 2005, 1:22am, edubrazil wrote:
In the 7th measure, the hyphen of the word &#8220;cantar&#8221; (3rd line of lyrics) is being swallowed (or squeezed) because of the end of the measure.

 
Here is the result with v9.2
 
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Re: Lyrics/hyphens fine position  
« Reply #7 on: Jul 4th, 2006, 2:01am »
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I use HA for Barbershop arranging, so this would be a great addition (I voted yes).  The Barbershop Harmony Society, for example, wants lyrics centered on the not except for tied notes, where the lyric should be left justified on the first note.  As far as I can tell, this is currently not possible for HA.
 
If HA solved this problem and provided more flexibility in melismas (e.g., entering them manually at the same height as they are entered automatically), I think HA would do about everything necessary to create Society arrangements, and in fact would dominate Finale (the Society's standard) because of Virtual Singer.
 
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Re: Lyrics/hyphens fine position  
« Reply #8 on: Oct 11th, 2006, 7:01pm »
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In market scores with lyrics, the first syllable is usually left justified even if the others are centered.  
So far, to align the first syllables on several verses whose global alignment is set at "center", you must add a few spaces (fumbling through the font sizes) which is a bit tedious and not always accurate.  
Along with the Staff.LyricsCellStyle in each lyrics cell, which manages the font, size, color, etc. there could be a Staff.LyricsCellAlignment (-1,0,1) or something alike.
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