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Question: Do you support the proposal below?

Yes     108 (92.3%)
No     9 (7.6%)

Total votes: 117

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« on: Nov 9th, 2005, 12:50pm »
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A Linux version of our programs.
Economically, a native port under Linux cannot be seriously considered (yet?)
However, it could be possible to optimize and certify the Windows version of our program under Linux + Wine.
 
If you are interested in this, or if on the opposite you consider it couldn't be an acceptable solution, please argument your vote.
 
Difficulty:
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Re: Linux version  
« Reply #1 on: Nov 9th, 2005, 4:26pm »
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I did not vote, but I wonder:
 
From time to time I view some forums about Linux (particularly Live Linux, such as Knoppix). Difficulties with hardware drivers are very common - often depending on minor differences from one system to another. With laptops especially, change is not possible. Also, there are different versions of Linux.
 
Might Linux be too much of a support headache?
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 9th, 2005, 6:29pm »
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I voted "no" because I think optimizing HA/MA for wine emulator would be enough, no need to have an headache working on an independent version imho
 
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 9th, 2005, 6:47pm »
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I'am not in favour of having Harmony ported over to linux for the reasons stated by Robert_A and Yannick MARCHEGAY , but l very much would like harmony to run effectively in Wine if it did not effect the stability of Harmony generally
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 9th, 2005, 11:49pm »
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Je comprends bien qu'une version native Linux représenterait un investissement en temps considérable, mais malgré tout, vu le prix d'HA sous Windows ou Mac qui pourrait rester le même que celui de la version Linux, je suis certain que bon nombre de linuxiens seraient prêts à le payer, je serais personnellement dans ce cas. Une des raisons qui m'a fait rester sous Windows est justement l'absence de vrais logiciel de MAO sous Linux, tels que Finale ou HA. LilyPond est remarquable, typographiquement parlant, si on accepte de passer son temps à entrer la musique en lignes de code. Mais pour un travail efficace, HA serait un logiciel parfait sous Linux, même en tant que logiciel commercial.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 9:49am »
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Oui mais j'utilise régulièrement HA avec l'émulateur wine et ça me convient parfaitement.
Si les quelques menus problèmes disparaissent, cela reviendra au même pour les utilisateurs et cela sera moins lourd pour les développeurs.
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Re: Linux version  
« Reply #6 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 1:48pm »
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Wine est de plus en plus performant. Il sera sans doute beaucoup plus facile de gérer les problèmes de compatibilité actuels que de se lancer dans une reprogrammation du logiciel. D'où le "non" à la proposition.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 4:41pm »
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D'où le "non" à la proposition.

 
  Tu as vu le dernier résultat du vote (jeudi 16:37h)? 94,4% pour et 5,5% contre; si ce n'est pas un plébiscite, ça y ressemble diablement... Ou alors la question n'est pas bien formulée? Est-elle plutôt:
 
soutenez-vous le développement de HA sous Wine/Linux?
 
Je suis moins enthousiaste, là...
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 6:24pm »
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I have been always curious about Linux, and has tryied to install many times in the past, and yes, like Robert said, always problems with drivers.
BUT...
Recently i discovered that it has changed a lot, with an audio oriented linux called demudi, and more specificly, by one distribution based on Knoppix, called Musix. I installed it, autoconfigured my soundcard (a soundblaster, and  C-Port 10+10). All become very easy, much as before.
Appear that they have standarized their soundsystem.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 7:13pm »
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on Nov 10th, 2005, 4:41pm, Bernard Meylan wrote:

  Tu as vu le dernier résultat du vote (jeudi 16:37h)? 94,4% pour et 5,5% contre; si ce n'est pas un plébiscite, ça y ressemble diablement... Ou alors la question n'est pas bien formulée? Est-elle plutôt:
 
soutenez-vous le développement de HA sous Wine/Linux?
 
Je suis moins enthousiaste, là...

 
Disons qu'il y a deux questions :
- soutenez-vous le développement de HA sous Linux ?
- soutenez-vous le développement de HA pour qu'il soit parfaitement compatible avec Wine sous Linux ?
 
Seule la première question a été posée et c'est là que le plébiscite a lieu. En revanche, Myriad a depuis quelque temps introduit la deuxième idée. Le vote est donc plus ou moins faussé...
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 9:29pm »
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Im not sure how the Linux community will receive Melody or Harmony if it become ported to Linux code. The more common thing is to blame to any proggie that is not released under GNU licenses, and sympli ignore them, and take time to make press against them...
Maybe im wrong, but it can be a losted time.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 11:25pm »
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Maybe im wrong, but it can be a losted time.

 
I'm not sure Marce. Some commercial softwares under Linux have a good reputation. Linux is not always "GNU", but can be a commercial OS too, see SuSE. For anyone will make a serious job with a musical software under Linux, HA can be THE solution.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 10th, 2005, 11:48pm »
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on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:25pm, Bernard Meylan wrote:

 
I'm not sure Marce. Some commercial softwares under Linux have a good reputation. Linux is not always "GNU", but can be a commercial OS too, see SuSE. For anyone will make a serious job with a musical software under Linux, HA can be THE solution.

 
Can you mention some commercial software pointed to home users that has succes under Linux, beyond the OS itself? Not sarcasm intended Bernard, im very ignorant about that world and like to know.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 22nd, 2005, 11:35pm »
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on Nov 10th, 2005, 11:25pm, Bernard Meylan wrote:

I'm not sure Marce. Some commercial softwares under Linux have a good reputation. Linux is not always "GNU", but can be a commercial OS too, see SuSE. For anyone will make a serious job with a musical software under Linux, HA can be THE solution.

Well, now RedHat also can be considered as commercial...
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 20th, 2006, 11:53pm »
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A native version in Linux would be very good. The Linux kernel supports most MIDI devices out-of-the-box these days. Audio recording can easily be done via ALSA and the JACK-IT (http://jackit.sourceforge.net/) library. Emulation via WINE may be very problematic when interfacing audio/MIDI hardware.
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