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Question: Do you support the proposal below?

Yes     41 (97.6%)
No     1 (2.3%)

Total votes: 42

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Sibelius import  
« on: Nov 9th, 2005, 12:43pm »
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Description:
Sibelius file format import (.sib)
 
Difficulty:

 
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #1 on: Nov 9th, 2005, 5:46pm »
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C'est à peu près le seul format de fichier des "grands" logiciels d'édition de partition qui n'est pas encore géré par HA, ce serait définitivement un plus que de pouvoir se vanter de pouvoir importer des fichiers de n'importe quel autre logiciel de musique sur le marché.  
 
Plus que cela, je possède Sibelius et l'échange entre les 2 logiciels ne peut se faire que par l'entremise du format MIDI que Sibelius gère on ne peut plus mal, à moins que je n'achète le module d'exportation XML, ce que je n'ai guère envie de faire. Ce n'arrive pas très fréquemment, mais lorsque j'ai un fichier SIB que je veux mettre en MYR ou l'inverse, je dois donc tout réécrire.
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #2 on: Nov 9th, 2005, 11:16pm »
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Oui, mais avec une petite appréhension (par pitié pour les développeurs)
J'ai vu la difficulté que représente l'analyse d'un format "assez clair" (Encore). Je me suis intéressé à Sibelius et ça paraît autrement plus pointu...
Cela dit, je partage pleine l'opinion de Laurier à propos de l'image de marque...
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #3 on: Nov 21st, 2005, 11:55pm »
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I vote YES.
Sibelius is very spreeded in "Pro" siociety. That means also many scores are done with it. The metter of "scores
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #4 on: Dec 6th, 2005, 10:42pm »
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J'ai voté oui. Comme Bubu, je pense aux difficultés de développement, mais comme Laurier, je trouve que ce serait parfois utile pour 'reprendre' des fichiers Sibelius. Le cas m'est déjà arrivé de devoir tout resaisir dans HA. Cette fonctionnalité serait un argument non négligeable en faveur de HA.
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #5 on: Dec 31st, 2005, 3:38pm »
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How about Scorch files?
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #6 on: Dec 31st, 2005, 4:30pm »
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Scorch is an Internet plug-in that allows you to see and hear Sibelius files online. It works about the same way as the Myriad Music Plug In which allows you to see and hear HA files online. To be more precise, in other words, Scorch is not a file, it is a plug in.
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #7 on: Dec 31st, 2005, 5:59pm »
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on Dec 31st, 2005, 4:30pm, Laurier wrote:
Scorch is an Internet plug-in that allows you to see and hear Sibelius files online. It works about the same way as the Myriad Music Plug In which allows you to see and hear HA files online. To be more precise, in other words, Scorch is not a file, it is a plug in.

 
OK. I notice that the Scorch files at www.schubertline.co.uk have a .sco extension (e.g. http://www.schubertline.co.uk/Scorchshop/scores/faureadieub.sco): so is that the same as a .sib file?
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #8 on: Dec 31st, 2005, 9:56pm »
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As far as I know, ".sco" file extension is not SibeliusMusic extension. Many programs use this extension namely games to maintain the scores of the players. In music, Csounds (http://www.csounds.com/) is a user of this extension. This program is a sound rederer, so may be the site you gave uses this program to render sounds for the users or some other uses. All Sibelius files, on the Internet or elsewhere must carry the .sib extension. Most sites that carry Sibelius files make them available for printing through Scorch only and very rarely give the opportunity to download the files from the Internet.
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #9 on: Jan 1st, 2006, 11:50am »
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on Dec 31st, 2005, 9:56pm, Laurier wrote:
As far as I know, ".sco" file extension is not SibeliusMusic extension.

 
On my system, the .SCO extension is defined as 'Sibelius Scorch Score' and associated with Internet Explorer. I assume this association is set up when you install the Scorch plug-in. By way of an experiment,  downloaded one of these .sco files and renamed it to .sib: when I double-clicked on it, it opened in IE with the Scorch plug-in (albeit with a warning about Active Content). I'm guessing that a .sco file is just a .sib file that has been renamed.
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #10 on: Jan 1st, 2006, 1:15pm »
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on Jan 1st, 2006, 11:50am, SDoerr wrote:

 
On my system, the .SCO extension is defined as 'Sibelius Scorch Score' and associated with Internet Explorer. I assume this association is set up when you install the Scorch plug-in. By way of an experiment,  downloaded one of these .sco files and renamed it to .sib: when I double-clicked on it, it opened in IE with the Scorch plug-in (albeit with a warning about Active Content).

 
I tried to change the extension as you mentioned, but it didn't worked for me (I'm on a Mac).  
 
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I'm guessing that a .sco file is just a .sib file that has been renamed.

 
What you say makes sense, may be the sib file has to be changed a little and need to be encoded in some way to make it usable on line while keeping it "protected" in some way
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 1st, 2006, 2:27pm »
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Un + certain, une ouverture totale, ce que les autres ne veulent faire Myriad peut le faire c'est tout à son honneur, je vote oui.
 
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #12 on: Mar 6th, 2006, 9:29pm »
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I use HA with virtual singer to produce learning tracks for a Barbershop chorus and a mixed SATB choir.
 
Both the musical directors use Sibelius for their unique arrangements and to produce a HA version I have to convert to MIDI in Sibelius and the import the MIDI to HA.
 
Sometimes it works well and sometimes not depending on the music. I would welcome a Sibelius import feature which is why I voted yes.
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #13 on: Mar 7th, 2006, 5:41am »
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on Mar 6th, 2006, 9:29pm, Willie N wrote:
I use HA with virtual singer to produce learning tracks for a Barbershop chorus and a mixed SATB choir.
 
Both the musical directors use Sibelius for their unique arrangements and to produce a HA version I have to convert to MIDI in Sibelius and the import the MIDI to HA.
 
Sometimes it works well and sometimes not depending on the music. I would welcome a Sibelius import feature which is why I voted yes.

 
Why don't using Music XML instead of MIDI ?
 
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Re: Sibelius import  
« Reply #14 on: Mar 8th, 2006, 5:56am »
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on Mar 7th, 2006, 5:41am, Didier Guillion wrote:
Why don't using Music XML instead of MIDI ?
No version of Sibelius, even the latest Version 4, exports MusicXML natively. You have to purchase an add-on from Recordare called "Dolet 1" (for Sibelius 1 through 3 -- will not work with Sibelius 4!) for $69.95 or "Dolet 3" (for Sibelius 4) for $129.95 ($79.95 upgrade from Dolet 1) -- in other words, at minimum you have to buy the equivalent of a new copy of Harmony Assistant!
 
Dolet 3 exports MusicXML 1.1 (http://www.musicxml.org/dtds/versions.html), not 1.0. Dolet 1 exports MusicXML 1.0, not 1.1. Which version(s) does Harmony Assistant's MyrScripts support for import and export?
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