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transpose octave shortcut  
« on: Nov 27th, 2017, 2:42pm »
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The shortcuts for transpose up and down an octave are listed as:
Ctrl+Alt+< and Ctrl+Alt+>
but when I use them nothing happens.
Is this a bug or might I be doing something wrong.
 
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Re: transpose octave shortcut  
« Reply #1 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 3:36pm »
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It works, I used it several times this morning.
You first have to select the part of the score you want to transpose.
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Re: transpose octave shortcut  
« Reply #2 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 3:54pm »
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you can use also "+" or "-" for an octave and CTRL+ "+" or CTRL + "-" for one semi-ton, (after the parts you want to move are selected)
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Re: transpose octave shortcut  
« Reply #3 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 6:04pm »
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Thanks for the responses. Yes I am highlighting. I'm using latest version HA.
 
Numeric keypad - and + zooms the document.
 
Ctrl++ and Ctrl+- do a semi-tone transpose but  
 
Ctrl+Alt+< and > do  nothing; whether I use the shift key or not; should I be using the Shift key to get < and >?
 
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Re: transpose octave shortcut  
« Reply #4 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 6:20pm »
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Sometimes, these key combinations are linked to the physical keyboard, not to the characters. Though I haven't had this issue with Harmony Assistant, but only with other music editors. But one never knows.  
 
If you have a UK keyboard, you may try Ctrl+Alt+ the key which is left to the "Z" - this is the location of < and > on the French keyboard, so that one is with shift and the other without.  
 
 
Alternatively, you should be able to click the Edit menu, Pitch change then select one of the two lines "One octave up" or "One octave down".  
 
I was told HA made it possible for a user to define his/her own shortcuts, I don't know it that would fit here.  
 
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 7:19pm »
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Andre_B
 
Thanks for your suggestions. I think you are probably right about it being keyboard specific. I had already tried the key to left of the Z, but no joy.
 
I'll keep trying to see if I can find a workaround. Obviously I can do it from the menus, but it's quite laborious.
 
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Re: transpose octave shortcut  
« Reply #6 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 7:24pm »
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I can do it using menu shortcut keys. It takes three keys but that's the same as the full shortcut.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 7:30pm »
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On peut modifier le clavier pour attribuer certaines actions aux touches.
 
You can change the keyboard to assign certain actions to the keys.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 7:47pm »
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Thank you, jihel9.
 
I have been looking all over for somewhere to change the keyboard assignment. But the English translation is not what I was looking for so I didn't find it.
 
Problem solved.
 
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 7:56pm »
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on Nov 27th, 2017, 2:42pm, Tony wrote:
The shortcuts for transpose up and down an octave are listed as: Ctrl+Alt+< and Ctrl+Alt+>
but when I use them nothing happens. Is this a bug or might I be doing something wrong.

Hi, Namesake,
 
The only thing you are doing wrong is not using a French keyboard layout; ours generate different key-codes that H.A. is not recognising as > or < .
 
Ignore those particular listed Menu shortcuts and create your own using: Configuration > Edit keyboard shortcuts >
Pull the window slider down to the area as shown below, select your requirement and press a suitable key.
 
(If that key is already used, then you are asked if you want to change its function.)

 
I have chosen to use 8 and 2 on the numeric keypad (i.e. keys engraved  with up and down arrows).
 
Note that Left-Shift and Right-Shift keys generate different key-codes, which are used by HA for different shortcuts.
 
The keys shown here move the selected notes:
Up or down a semitone.
Up or down one note of the current scale (Left-shift).  
Up or down one octave (Right-shift).
 
You must save your modified keyboard shortcut file because it is now different to the default.
 
The default has far too many shortcuts to memorise; if you have to look them up then it is a long-cut !
Let me know by private message if you want my stripped-down modified .kbd files.
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Re: transpose octave shortcut  
« Reply #10 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 4:31am »
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On my keyboard, the key to the left of the Z key is the left-side shift key, so that's no help!  Where is the Z key on the French keyboard?
 
A related question about setting keyboard shortcuts (Configuration > Edit keyboard shortcuts . . . ):  in setting user shortcuts, it matters whether the Shift, Ctrl, or Alt key used in the shortcut is on the left or right side of the keyboard.  Is there any way to set a shortcut such that the side of the Shift, etc., key is irrelevant (i.e., either side may be used)?
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 7:59am »
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If the shift key is at the left of Z, that should mean that you have a US keyboard (that's why I said "if you have a UK keyboard...); or perhaps some less frequent one.  
 
(The French keyboard has the Z where you have the W, but I meant the Z on the non-French/Belgian keyboard).  
 
I think that if you want the Alt, Ctrl or shift key to work the same (and use them), you need to define the two shortcuts.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 9:12am »
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Thanks for your explanations, Tony Deff.
 
This fixes my problem and I have saved my .kbd settings file.
 
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Re: transpose octave shortcut  
« Reply #13 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 11:05am »
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J'ai fait quelques essais d'édition de clavier.  
 
Si j'essaie d'assigner une fonction à un certain ensemble de touches, et que celui-ci est déjà défini, parfois je reçois un message avec l'option de modifier ou non. Mais dans beaucoup de cas je ne reçois rien, simplement je vois que l'assignation n'est pas indiquée. Je n'ai pas encore cherché s'il y a une logique derrière cette différence.  
 
Pour me dépanner, j'ai fait quelques assignations sur la touche "majuscule droite" puisque les deux touches sont différentes.  
 
Mais il y a au moins deux fonctions que je voudrais assigner, et qui ne semblent pas disponibles:  
- exporter en myrweb
- ouvrir la grande table de mixage.  
 
Une suggestion?  
 
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 11:21am »
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pour l'export en myrweb, il y a plusieurs solutions.
Soit une touche clavier pour le script export par lot. Dès que les options ont été choisies la première fois, on revient toujours sur les mêmes.
 
Il faut seulement choisir le fichier, ou le répertoire à exporter.
 
Soir en créant un script personnel et en lui assignant une touche.
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