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Problem with a new staff's key  
« on: Aug 5th, 2014, 12:29pm »
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Hi there!
 
When I have a song that changes the key in its middle, adding a new staff always keeps the key of the beginning of the song, so it turns out that the new key changes are not applied to this new staff.
 
Let's say: I start writing a song in A and, at bar 20, I change the key to E, so I change the key of all staffs. Then, at bar 40, I change the key once again to Bm. If then I add a new staff (to add another instrument), the key of the staff will be A, but it won't change at bar 20, nor at bar 40, so the key of the new staff will be always A. If I try to modify the key of the new staff at bars 20 and 40, the modification also apply to the already existing bars, but maintaining the key difference between the new bars and the previous ones.
 
Is there a way to make a new staff check for already existing key changes in the song and automatically adapt to them? It would seem to be the default thing to do, but I can't manage to get it working...
 
Thanks in advance for your time and effort!
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #1 on: Aug 5th, 2014, 1:08pm »
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Instead of adding a new staff, duplicate an existing staff and delete the notes and rests from it - leaving the time and key signatures
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #2 on: Aug 5th, 2014, 1:11pm »
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OK. I does the same on my machine...
So, let's try this, after adding a new staff (that keeps the initial key change, no matter the existing key changes).
1- Use the key tool (2nd tool in the Clef & Signature tools) + pencil tool. Click on an existing key change to edit it.
2- In the bottom part of the edit window, look for the "Apply to" otion and in the dropdown menu, choose the "All staves (absolutely) option.
3- OK
That should copy the key change to the new staff.
Do the same for all the other key changes.
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #3 on: Aug 5th, 2014, 1:29pm »
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Great, both ways worked! The first one seems to be a quicker way to add a new staff, but the second one is the way to work with already existing staffs... Thanks both for your help!
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #4 on: Aug 5th, 2014, 2:27pm »
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Pues es curioso, por que en mi casa eso no sucede.  
He probado con una partitura para SATB que comienza en  G, después pasa a E, mas adelante a A  y termina en D. Pues bién; añado un nuevo pentagrama vacío y me incluye todos los cambios en la armadura.   ¿O no es el mismo asunto?....
 
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Well it's funny, because in my house that does not happen.  
I tried with a score for SATB that begins in G, then goes to E later at A and ends in D. For well; add a new empty staff and me includes all changes in the armor. Or is it the same thing? ....
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #5 on: Aug 5th, 2014, 4:59pm »
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To Oliveira :
It's probably because the "all staves (absolutely)" option is already set.  
Try changing it to "relatively" : it shouldn't work on a new staff.
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #6 on: Aug 5th, 2014, 6:12pm »
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Pues nó. Esta activado "Todos los pentagramas relativamente". Y para que vea usted que es verdad, puede ver el vídeo. https://www.dropbox.com/s/auyx25tgkk44g9s/Key.wmv  
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #7 on: Aug 6th, 2014, 1:40pm »
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Forgot to mention, but I'm using Melody Assistant... I've seen in the video that you are using Harmony Assistant, so I guess this whole "new staff that doesn't maintain keys" could be a Melody Assistant bug that doesn't occur in Harmony Assistant...
 
Maybe they will solve it in a next version, but meanwhile the workarounds provided in this post solved the issue!
 
Thanks all for your time and effort!
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Re: Problem with a new staff's key  
« Reply #8 on: Aug 6th, 2014, 1:57pm »
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Hice la prueba con una demo de Melody y todo funcionó igual que en H.A.. Todo correcto. ¿Misterio?.  
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