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Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« on: Jun 14th, 2012, 3:43pm » |
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I was trying to load the .png text but the open file option won't allow it,any idea why? I tried PICT and .pdf too but no joy.
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #1 on: Jun 14th, 2012, 5:29pm » |
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A .png is not a text but a bitmap image.
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #2 on: Jun 14th, 2012, 6:35pm » |
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Thanks you for the reply. I see I am showing my stupidity again, what text program where you thinking of in OS X?
I will not make you answer but I will find something that will either make a text document or I will learn to type the Lyrics under the notes. I didn't really think a copy of the text imported to the editor would be able to do more than jingle bells, my text has many Italian vowel combinations that must be sung in the time of one 8th note. I will keep reading the Manual and hope to find out how to search in it for terms that deliver useful results-something that has, so far, eluded me.
PS: the image names where in the Manual, they must refer to pictures inside a score ?
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #3 on: Jun 14th, 2012, 7:38pm » |
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If the .png image is good quality any OCR software should be able to decipher it and turn it into a proper text (Abby Fine reader, Scabsoft Omnipage, or even free OCR on the Internet) Then it can be edited in any word processor or text editor and pasted.
for your PS : true, a .png file is nothing else than a picture format.
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #4 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 11:02am » |
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bubu, Thanks for the reply. I have done what you suggested but since the printed manual has no index and the online manual has no search function I have not after 2 hours work gotten any closer to using this software successfully. The edit window will probably require as much detailed work as just entering the text in the score, unless you know of some other way. I will continue reading the entire Manual as I cannot do a search for adding Lyrics, i assume there eventually will be a chapter about this. My need to route the single digital track output from this project to Logic[maybe through an IAC bus]will have to wait, I did see a window with MIDI routing but-no explanations as to its' use.
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #5 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 5:26pm » |
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Hi David,
First of all, welcome to the complicated and exciting world of Harmony Assistant. I too struggled early on, and still struggle years later, with learning how to do certain things with this software. It is not because the answers are not there, it is because (1) music editing is really complicated and (2) the answers to your questions are not in one easily-indexed place.
So, have patience, and look in many places for the answers. For example, I too have found very few answers in the on-line manual. I find many answers in the on-line tutorials... i suggest you choose to watch some of them, then try the ideas yourself to get the hang of it. Also, asking questions here in the forums is a great way to learn things, as you are finding out.
And of course, the web is a big place, and doing a search on the web sometimes takes you to somebody's blog page or YouTube video that tells you more about music theory and editing, computers, differences between text and bitmaps, etc. I learn a lot this way too.
Also, it may be best to start with simpler music tasks, then work your way up to the more complicated ones... it is certainly less frustrating. Trying to import a large music score and fix it up turns out to be a complex task. But creating a new empty score, and hand-entering a few bars of notes and the lyrics underneath, and adjusting things at that small scale might be a better place to start.
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #6 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 6:54pm » |
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Eduard is right
As far as editing lyrics, please have a look at this thread.
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #7 on: Jun 16th, 2012, 8:50am » |
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on Jun 15th, 2012, 5:26pm, drakonis wrote:Hi David,
[First of all, welcome to the complicated and exciting world of Harmony Assistant. I too struggled early on, and still struggle years later, with learning how to do certain things with this software. It is not because the answers are not there, it is because (1) music editing is really complicated and (2) the answers to your questions are not in one easily-indexed place.]
Thanks very much for the help. I have learned Logic Pro to the point I can use it,so I am familiar with music editing. In Apples' case the info is not in the manual but is still in the memory of many long time users,so I ask on the Logic forums and get info that they admit isn't in the manual anymore because the developers and long time users just know that certain things work in one way only, etc.
[So, have patience, and look in many places for the answers. For example, I too have found very few answers in the on-line manual. I find many answers in the on-line tutorials... i suggest you choose to watch some of them, then try the ideas yourself to get the hang of it. Also, asking questions here in the forums is a great way to learn things, as you are finding out.]
True, there is only one forum for HA so I must keep returning here. I have watched most of the tutorials but miss the verbal descriptions, would be difficult to include all spoken Languages in the videos anyway, I will watch them all several times to make sure I am getting what I can out of them.
[And of course, the web is a big place, and doing a search on the web sometimes takes you to somebody's blog page or YouTube video that tells you more about music theory and editing, computers, differences between text and bitmaps, etc. I learn a lot this way too.]
My experience with Logic you tube videos is that they are intended for the normal user and don't cover things like alternate tunings or pieces with no drum machine, but some have been helpful, and I will see if there are any there for HA.
[Also, it may be best to start with simpler music tasks, then work your way up to the more complicated ones... it is certainly less frustrating. Trying to import a large music score and fix it up turns out to be a complex task. But creating a new empty score, and hand-entering a few bars of notes and the lyrics underneath, and adjusting things at that small scale might be a better place to start.]
An excellent idea, but my first HA project is a simple melody with no accompaniment in HA, which I hope to somehow route the digital output of HA to Logic so I can use it there, or just record Virtual Singer and export the audio file to use in my Logic project. having spent 4 years learning Logic's score editor I would not try to create a score of more than one sung melody in HA.
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Very wise, thanks again for helping.
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Re: Lyric edit won't open Mac .png
« Reply #8 on: Jun 16th, 2012, 10:07am » |
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on Jun 15th, 2012, 6:54pm, JP wrote:Eduard is right
As far as editing lyrics, please have a look at this thread. |
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Thank you JP again for your input. I have done as you suggested and found there are indeed places online where I can download the Lyrics and then bubu said to use OCR to change my pict into a editable .pdf which I did manage to load into the Lyric edit window, at first I wasn't sure how the system was meant to work, but thanks to you and the others I am beginning to think I understand a bit better. i will battle on. Thomas Edison wrote:"I haven't failed, I've found ten thousand ways that don't work"[By the way-that thread was great-thanks]
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