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(Message started by: DimebagPlan on Jun 7th, 2006, 1:11am)
Title: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by DimebagPlan on Jun 7th, 2006, 1:11am
Hello all, i was searching on the net for nice orchestral Soundbank. I have found the Vienna Symphonic library wich is really nice but, to be honest, it is too expensive for me...
Do you know some nice professional orchestral library
with a cheaper prices ???
And if Yes wich software allow me to play thoses library ???
Thanks for your help !!!!
Fell free to answer in English or French !
thanks you very much again !
Bye.
Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by marce on Jun 7th, 2006, 2:13am
Are you an user of Harmony Assistant? I suppose that yes if you post here. So, you can use Harmony with Goldbase2 that is a good sound base that include orchestral instruments, plus lot of others.
If you are looking for something more specialized, the Garritan Personal Orchestra is probably the best option, that can be played from Harmony Assistant.
Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by DimebagPlan on Jun 7th, 2006, 8:01am
No, i am not ! Sorry !
Thats because i found this forum with my orchestral library research on the net !
I didnt know that this forum was Linked to "HA"
I am really interested by Harmony Assistant !
Is there a way to Listen to some Demo songs Writed by Harmony Assistant with the Goldbase2 or the Garritan Personal Orchestra ???
Thanks you so much !
Bye.
Julien.
Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by ian-eklektia on Jun 7th, 2006, 11:32am
good sound = expensive soft :)

But HA is a very good soft. You can make very good music with Gold2!!!

Dimebadarel powa!! lol. I'm not the only one who listen metal here now hihihi
Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by crimhead on Jun 7th, 2006, 2:12pm
Hi

You can listen to a lot lot lot of songs made with Harmony or Melody if you install the myriad-plugin on your computer. With this plugin you can listen to all the songs that you find here:
http://www.myriad-online.com/en/resources/tunes.htm

best regards

Lutz
Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by Sylvain Machefert on Jun 7th, 2006, 2:54pm
I suppose DimebagPlan prefer MP3 demos, because he hasn't yet the Gold base. look at the pages of this forum, there are sometimes demos posted by users.
Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by Olivier Guillion on Jun 7th, 2006, 3:17pm
This link (http://www.myriad-online.com/cgi-bin/instrumentinfo/instrumentinfo.pl) can also be of help  :)
Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
Post by Sylvain Machefert on Jun 7th, 2006, 8:52pm

on 06/07/06 à 14:54:36, Sylvain Machefert wrote:
I suppose DimebagPlan prefer MP3 demos, because he hasn't yet the Gold base. look at the pages of this forum, there are sometimes demos posted by users.


Here are some I mad :
  • Balade for violin (http://www.myriad-online.com/cgi-bin/bbs/YaBB.pl?board=goldbase;action=display;num=1093715584)
  • A recorder (flute) piece from Eberhard Werdin (excerpt) (http://iubito2.free.fr/fluteabec.mp3)
  • A street organ made with church organ sound (http://iubito2.free.fr/barbarie.mp3)
  • C.P.E. Bach Solfegieto, jazz version (http://iubito2.free.fr/Solfegieto.mp3)
  • Take Five, fanfare version (http://iubito2.free.fr/TakeFive.mp3)
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    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by Jean-Armand on Jun 7th, 2006, 10:42pm
    Sylvain, your CPE Bach jazz version is superb !  :D

    You can also listen to these pieces:
    - a organ prelude on "Valet will ich dir geben" (http://jamoroni.club.fr/Musique/Prelude_choral_Valet.mp3)
    - a (dark) symphonic piece (http://jamoroni.club.fr/Musique/Des_profondeurs.mp3) (with a non-HA reverberation)
    - a short piece with ethnic percussions (http://jamoroni.club.fr/Musique/Latino.mp3)
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by Sylvain Machefert on Jun 8th, 2006, 6:46am
    Jean-Armand, j'aime beaucoup le latino :D
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by DJ on Jun 8th, 2006, 7:00am

    Quote:
    Dimebadarel powa!! lol. I'm not the only one who listen metal here now hihihi

    Nope. I just wish more metal heads would listen to more baroque and classic. Metal could offer a whole lot more than just the Cookie Monster, Ethel Merman and dropped D.
    The world suffered a loss when the Dime was taken. Not many realize that.
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by ian-eklektia on Jun 8th, 2006, 10:35am
    Quelqu'un peut traduire?? :-[
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by James_Warren on Jun 20th, 2006, 11:53pm
    Forgive me if I am a little late to the party here but I would like to contribute some sample mp3 files rendered with the Gold 2 samples.  I couldn't get it together at the time of the original post because I had to reinstall Windows twice in the last few weeks and in the confusion, lost all of my sound samples and my custom Virtual Singer voices as well as many programs.  My back up strategy seems a bit deficient. I am only now reinstalling programs and putting my system back into working order. I might be a bit slow but even the cold blooded tortoise has a four chambered heart.

    Here is the Adagio from Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 8 rendered seven times with different voices from the Gold 2 sound base.
    The first file is a "reference" piano version.
    Piano:
    Grand Piano 2
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/PaGP2.mp3

    The next file is with Didier Roche's cathedral organ voices.  In my opinion this set of 46 voices alone is worth the small cost of the Gold 2 disk.  Even if you don't intend to render "organ music" the broad range of voices with so many subtle variations can be well used in any mix.
    Organ:
    Swell-Prestant 4'
    Swell-Hautbois 8'
    Swell-Montre 8'
    Ped-Cor de nuit 2'
    Ped-Clarion 4'
    Ped-Bombarde 16'
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/PaO.mp3

    A mix:
    Overdrive Guitar (Guitar)
    60's strings (Ensemble)
    Natural Oboe 2 (Reed)
    Cello 2 (String & Orchestra)
    Tuba (Brass)
    Contrabass (String & Orchestra)
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/PaMIX.mp3

    Reed:
    Natural Tenor Sax 2
    Natural Clarinet 2
    Xaphoon
    Natural Clarinet
    Natural French Bassoon
    Natural Bass Clarinet
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/PaR.mp3

    Brass:
    Natural Trumpet
    Euphonium
    Trombone
    Tuba
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/PaB.mp3

    String & Orchestra
    Natural Violin 2
    Cello 2
    Contrabass
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/PaS.mp3


    Just for laughs - Pads and Effects:
    Metal Fantasia (Synth Pad)
    Fantasmosphere (Synth Pad)
    Orchestral Atmosphere (Synth Effects)
    Echo Drops (Synth Effects)
    Ped-Bourdon 8' (organ)
    Brightness (Synth Effects)
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/PaPAD.mp3

    --------

    Now two old popular song standards and two old popular computer game themes.

    AlohaOe
    Pedal Steel (Guitar)
    Octa Rhodes (Piano)
    Taiko (Percussive)
    Natural Picked Bass 2 (Bass)
    G. Org-Flute ouverte 4' (Organ)
    Echo Drops (Synth Effects)
    Rock drum set
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/AlohaOe.mp3

    Oops,  I dropped my tune in the surf.
    Xaphoon (Reed)
    Natural Violin 2 (String & Orchestra)
    Natural Cello (String & Orchestra)
    Choir aahs (Ensemble)
    Choir aahs 2 (Ensemble)
    60's Strings (Ensemble)
    Synth Breathy Sax (Reed)
    Seashore 2 (Effects)
    Bird (Effects)
    Overdrive Guitar (Guitar)
    Natural French Bassoon (Reed)
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/EbbTide.mp3

    The Duke is back to kick bass and chew bubble gum...  and he's all out of gum!
    Grand Piano 2 (Piano)
    Bag Pipe (Ethnic)
    English Horn 2 (Reed)
    Natural Bass Clarinet (Reed)
    Tubular Bell (Chromatic percussion)
    Ped-Clairon 4' (Organ)
    Powerful Natural Alto Sax (Reed)
    Natural French Bassoon (Reed)
    Ped-Cor de nuit 2' (Organ)
    Steel Drums (Percussive)
    Ped-Bombarde 16' (Organ)
    Natural Harmonica 2 (Organ)
    Natural Oboe 2 (Reed)
    rock drum set
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/Grabbag.mp3

    Daddy, Daddy I sawed the demon in Doom.
    Clavi Bass (Bass)
    Choir aahs 2 (Ensemble)
    Natural Harmonica 2 (Organ)
    Metal Atmosphere (Synth Effects)
    Overdrive Guitar (Guitar)
    Natural French Bassoon (Reed)
    rock drum set
    HTTP://webs.lanset.com/jow/IsawedTheDemon.mp3


    Does anyone have HA rendered samples with the Garritan Personal Orchestra that they could post?  I would love to hear what I am missing.
    Title: Do I really need Gold Sound Database?
    Post by Gordon on Aug 8th, 2006, 12:03am
    I am using the GMSEbase sounds.
    I have purchased HA a few years ago and recently I added VS, but I wondered  if I really need the Gold 2 sounds, that I have not yet purchased.
    Can anyone convince me that it is really worth while?
    Do you get a CD sent to you, if you purchase on line?
    How does it work. Do you install it and then it takes the place of the old sounds?
    Any help would be appreciated. I feel I may be missing  out on something here.
    Thanks.

    Gordon
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by Gordon on Aug 8th, 2006, 12:11am
    I recently inquired about Gold sound database.
    I have Finale 2006, which comes with a Garritan sound base light, but I haven't figured out how to use this is HA, and I don't know if it is even possible.
    It seems that I should be considering Gold sound database after all.
    Anyone with any comments to convince me. Is it really all that much better than the default sounds that come with HA?
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by Eddy on Aug 8th, 2006, 3:16am

    on 08/08/06 at 00:11:25, Gordon wrote:
    I recently inquired about Gold sound database.
    I have Finale 2006, which comes with a Garritan sound base light, but I haven't figured out how to use this is HA, and I don't know if it is even possible.
    It seems that I should be considering Gold sound database after all.
    Anyone with any comments to convince me. Is it really all that much better than the default sounds that come with HA?

    I can't say I'm familiar with Garritan but many swear by it. My own website has many Gold Base 2 samples, in classical-romantic and contemporary styles including some of the Delius Florida Suite which I sequenced. Though I did half of the Delius in Gold Base, I'm currently doing the rest of it and revising what I already did for a commercial CD of all-Gold Base tracks.

    But my website has quite a few Gold Base files already in different forms (myr and mp3) and you can compare the Gold Base of the mp3s with whatever sound base you have installed.

    I just put a Gold Base version of my Glee on the site today. The voices are not Virtual Singer I must say. The url, somewhat hidden is

    http://www.egoldmidincd.com/gleedwsgb.mp3

    but there are other samples. I'm sorry I can't help with heavy metal! :D

    Ed

    For a list of my other GB files see (Sylvain's posting):

    http://www.myriad-online.com/cgi-bin/bbs/YaBB.pl?board=goldbase;action=display;num=1152082021
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by James_Warren on Aug 8th, 2006, 5:43am

    on 08/08/06 at 00:11:25, Gordon wrote:
    I recently inquired about Gold sound database.
    I have Finale 2006, which comes with a Garritan sound base light, but I haven't figured out how to use this is HA, and I don't know if it is even possible.
    It seems that I should be considering Gold sound database after all.
    Anyone with any comments to convince me. Is it really all that much better than the default sounds that come with HA?



    I had to download the GMSE base to see what was available there and to play some of my music files with it.
    The first thing that I noticed was a *dramatic* lack of instrument voice choices relative to Gold 2. Also, the choices that *are* there and that have to be substituted for the voices used in a Gold 2 file are like shades of Grey compared to the rainbow pallet that we enjoy with Gold 2.  You NEED Gold 2 in order to hear the music in a file created with Gold 2.  And how many are now being created with Gold 2, most?  The last mp3 example that I posted  today,  for example, uses 8 unique sounds not available from the GMSE.  What I did there could not have been done *at all* without Gold 2. The GMSE won't let you play on a cathedral organ and the other instrument categories are also dramatically restricted. When I switch to the GMSE base ALL of those Gold 2 sounds that I used in that file are gone and the automatic replacements consist of church organ 1 and church organ 2 sounding very much alike. Ugh Lee!  It is hardly worth listening to because all of the finer nuances of Beethoven's music are muted or gone.

    Ordinarily I wouldn't be this insistent but the Gold 2 collection is so very inexpensive ANYONE can afford it. It is worth many times the cost, in my opinion. GET IT YOU WON'T REGRET IT!

    It comes on a disk that installs itself as just another choice from Configuration / sound base.  You choose "Automatic" and forget about it from then on.
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by marce on Aug 8th, 2006, 1:20pm

    on 08/08/06 at 00:11:25, Gordon wrote:
    I have Finale 2006, which comes with a Garritan sound base light, but I haven't figured out how to use this is HA, and I don't know if it is even possible.


    From the Garritan Forum:

    Quote:
    However, Finale comes with a Finale version of GPO, designed to work within Finale, at no extra cost. It's just part of the whole Finale package. If you have full GPO, additional instruments are added.


    I understand it only works with Finale, but maybe not. I believe you need to ask that in the finale or garritan forum.
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by Jean-Armand on Aug 8th, 2006, 10:10pm
    There is another thread on this forum, which describes using Garritan with HA. However the version you have might be restricted in some way or another.

    Gold Base is certainly worth its price, IMHO. I have heard a few pieces made with Garritan, and although they are good, I woud say they are not excellent.

    In fact, Gold Base and Garritan are probably more complementary than concurrent: Garritan is good on classical orchestra sounds (and does not include many other sounds if I remember well), while Gold Base leans more towards non-orchestra sounds: ethnic instruments, percussion, various effets, church organ... The church organ samples alone are probably worth buying the base.
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by StudentBb on May 11th, 2007, 9:47pm
    hello all. for quite a while now i have been searching for just a sample piece of a contrabass clarinet playing. So far i have had no luck. Can any of you help me?
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by Eddy on May 12th, 2007, 5:56pm
    With all due respect to the piece in question, in Gold Base the sample shows as natural bass clarinet. That is not the same as contrabass clarinet which sounds an octave below the bass clarinet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrabass_clarinet

    It is the best you can do with these GB samples but it isn't really the same thing.

    When I was a student at Yale a long time ago ;D, Stravinsky's Threni, I think, had just come out and I wrote an atonal cantata under its influence. The fact that I never really liked Stravinsky didn't matter; it was mandated at the time that we should be influenced by him! But the contrabass clarinet was featured and I wrote such a part without knowing anything about it.

    In any case, it would be useful to me also in the event that I might want to sequence the piece in HA/VS. (I presume, editing the instrument as a user instrument would be feasible.)

    I second StudentBb's request!

    Added:

    I did find a couple of you tube videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hff4aQs8N9w

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6HteNRMU5U&mode=related&search=
    Title: Re: Nice Symphonic or Orchestral Library ??
    Post by CRI-CRI on May 12th, 2007, 7:06pm
    You are obviously right, Eddy !
    I answered too fast the question  :P


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