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(Message started by: Tony Deff on Jul 11th, 2017, 12:54pm)

Title: Improving Singer clarity / Améliorer la clarté du chanteur
Post by Tony Deff on Jul 11th, 2017, 12:54pm

on 06/27/17 at 17:34:26, Tournesol wrote:
... les voix virtuelles proposées par défaut ne ne sont pas agréables. J'ai essayé de changer dans le menu de paramètres interprétation, vibrato, je n'ai pas trouvé les bonnes coordonnées  
(the virtual voices offered by default are not pleasant. I tried to change settings menu, vibrato, but did not find the right ones)

De nombreux messages soulignent la nécessité de contrôler la montée & descent (courbe de volume) et l'appui (proportion son:silence).
Un appui <100% est nécessaire pour distinguer un mot de l'autre. Souvent, une descent de volume est également nécessaire, en particulier sur les longues notes.

Many posts emphasise the need to control the "attack/decay" (volume curve) and pressure time (the sound:silence ratio).
A pressure time <100% is necessary to distinguish one word from another. Often a decay is also necessary, especially on long notes.


on 06/11/16 at 13:06:05, Tony Deff wrote:
... enunciation sounds better if you select all the notes (Ctrl-A), blanket-change them all to a "Pressure-time" of 95% (Edit > Apply Changes > Play).
Then, individually select notes preceding a hyphen and restore them to 100%. This limits hissing at the beginning of words.


on 02/28/15 at 05:53:49, muddle wrote:
... . The volume rising /falling <> effect was applied and seemed to be a good way to make the fast notes sound like some choirs sing them.


on 12/24/14 at 01:22:54, muddle wrote:
Oh dear...    the amount of volume changes required to get a similar sort of life in it! ... I had to use volume to shape the notes shorter in many cases.
And then there was the  adjusting of words on the notes.. adding word fragments to get the same emphasis as the real thing.  
... the volume curve has a bump upwards at the start to give emphasis


on 12/20/14 at 01:34:48, muddle wrote:
I hope someone may have a use for these 3 voices.
... For faster use the starting volume  slopes should be made steeper.

The attached sample Kathleen uses volume curves  and vibrato effects.
http://www.myriad-online.com/cgi-bin/bbs/YaBB.pl?board=Scores;action=display;num=1419035688;start=6


on 12/20/14 à 15:10:45, Sylvain Machefert wrote:
Great sound!
I point this forum topic to Guillion Bros so they can add these voices on VS page.  http://www.myriad-online.com/en/resources/voices.htm


on 12/22/14 at 23:06:40, Oliveira wrote:
¡Genial!. Gracias.


on 12/24/14 à 16:54:03, Olivier Guillion wrote:
Hi, Muddle,  Thank you for this great christmas gift ! :D
I updated the VS voices page (http://www.myriad-online.com/en/resources/voices.htm) to add your work....


on 02/09/14 at 13:20:13, carminum wrote:
  1. The spelling used here does work with most voices...
  2. ... Also, and this is very important, and it explains why this voice sounds the way it does, I altered the voice's phonemes. All of these changes are directly related to the settings of the formants...
It is also important to pay attention to the length of each individual note (the [b]'pressure time' in HA) in the score. If this is left at 100 the words sound glued together resulting in them becoming undistinguishable one from another.[/b]
  3. ...  again and again, I have to experiment with various spellings of any word for the best result. And, I must repeat this, as the settings of the formants are immediately affecting all the other parameters, whenever I change a formant's settings, to change the voice type I need, I usually have to build up the voice from scratch all over again.
  4. ... I want any voice appearing in it to sound correctly, that is, sounding HUMAN, as opposed to sounding like a DALEK, which is what most computer voices sound like.
  5. There are no fundamental or generally applicable rules in making your voices work for you. If you you want the voice to sound properly, that is: realistically, you will have to experiment.


on 02/28/15 at 05:34:13, muddle wrote:
Hallo again.   Here are some more attempts at operatic solo voices :
http://aaronlawrence.fastmail.fm/muddlestuff/4operavoices.zip
....
And  there's a major problem with this operatic stuff.
If you want to get the most ' life' into the  voice  you will probably need to apply parameter curves ( volume, treble and even bass if needed) ... varying almost all the the time. ( And the words did get some strange spellings to change the sound in places.)

This means  you have to be a bit inspired by the piece you are doing or you will never keep going through all the trial and mistakes!
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