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« on: Apr 11th, 2014, 8:16am »
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Hi all --
 
I want Virtual Singer to sing only the vowels in a song. I tried just writing the Sampa symbol for the vowels I wanted, but that didn't work.
 
Here's an example of what I mean:
 
Myriad Forum > i i & O @
 
This will be used as a vocal exercise while learning a song.
 
Would I choose a language or something to make just typing the Sampa symbols work?
 
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 11th, 2014, 1:26pm »
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SAMPA notation is normally inserted in square brackets after the normal spelling, syllable by syllable, and a hash sign (#) is also required to indicate SAMPA, e.g.:
 
Three[#i] blind[#aI] mice[#aI]
 
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« Reply #2 on: May 25th, 2015, 1:51am »
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If you want more syllables than the word or symbol has, here is the approach I use. (FYI: I place the below date into the lyrics of Finale 2012B file and export via musicmxl and import it into Harmony Assistant.) I have not typed them directly into Harmony Assistant. Let me know if you have.
 
Amer. English and Sampa combined CMU dictionary
our[#aU]-##[#3]      AW1 - ER0 -  
our[#aUr]       AW1 R -  
our[#Ar]          AA1 R -  
 
768 as a number sung as a word.
Amer. English and Sampa combined  
768##[#sev]-##[#Vn]-##[#hVn]-##[#drVd]-##[#sIks]-##[#ti]-##[#eIt]  
CMU dictionary ]
S EH1 V - AH0 N - HH AH1 N - D R AH0 D - S IH1 K S - T IY0 - EY1 T
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« Reply #3 on: May 25th, 2015, 4:38pm »
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on Apr 11th, 2014, 1:26pm, SDoerr wrote:
... blind[#aI] mice[#aI]Steve

I am glad to see that other users are more "on-the-ball" than myself in understanding how to use SAMPA.
 
I don't know if the crazy results I got from SAMPA were because of my impaired intelligence (I suffer with mitochondrial failure / hyper-exhaustion / M.E.) or impaired eyesight.  
 
The break-through came when I realised that the sans-serif font used in the Documentation does not distinguish between lower-case L and upper-case I (and, with some screens and with poor eyesight, lower-case i ).
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« Reply #4 on: May 26th, 2015, 8:39am »
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Tony,  
The lower case L is longer and thinner than the upper case i. Slightly.  
 
I totally agree that it's not easy to read. With normal text, the context makes it clear. In an "encoding" situation, it doesn't.  
 
I agree that SAMPA transcriptions should preferably  use serif fonts, though these are out of fashion nowadays.  
 
In tables like you show, having the Sampa column in "avec-serif" and the plain example in "sans-serif"  would also be easier to read, avoiding the need to continuously referring to the column headers.
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